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Last post 01-28-2007 9:10 PM by trwheels. 16 replies.
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  • 01-27-2007 10:32 AM

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    Calibration too pink

    Can anyone help me?  I bought the Spyder2 Express and calibrated my new monitor but it looks too pink.  What should I do to fix this?  I tried recalibrating but I get the same results.  I think it is too warm?  That seems to be the point when it changes to a pinkish tan hue.  Even my black and whites look pinkish on the monitor.  Any suggestions?
  • 01-27-2007 8:50 PM In reply to

    Re: Calibration too pink

    What specifications do you have it calibrated to?

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  • 01-28-2007 9:10 AM In reply to

    Re: Calibration too pink

    Reset the monitor to default settings.
    Make sure the monitor has been turn on for a least one hour.
    Turn off overhead lights and desklamps.
    Close window blinds or shade windows.
    Use the default settings of the Spyder.

    Can you post an example photo?

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  • 01-28-2007 10:44 AM In reply to

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    Re: Calibration too pink

    Gamma 2.2

    White Point 6500K

     

    That is what it Spyder2 Express came set to.  Is that the info you wanted?

  • 01-28-2007 11:09 AM In reply to

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    Re: Calibration too pink

    Here is a black and white.  It still has a pinkish hue to it on my monitor.
  • 01-28-2007 11:11 AM In reply to

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    Re: Calibration too pink

    Here is one in color-
  • 01-28-2007 11:52 AM In reply to

    Re: Calibration too pink

    Both of these photos look OK to me.  Try calibrating again with the settings I described.
    2.2 and 6500 are what my monitors are set to.
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  • 01-28-2007 1:06 PM In reply to

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    Re: Calibration too pink

    Thanks.  I will try again when the sun goes down.  Smile
  • 01-28-2007 1:13 PM In reply to

    Re: Calibration too pink

    Snowing hard east of Pittsburgh, 2 inches since noon, it's coming your way.
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  • 01-28-2007 1:39 PM In reply to

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    Re: Calibration too pink

    Thanks for the heads up.  How much are you supposed to get?

  • 01-28-2007 2:10 PM In reply to

    Re: Calibration too pink

    The images you posted look fine to me, you can go in and read the RGB values in neutral areas to see if the problem is the monitor or the image. If the RGB values are the same in a neutral area then the image is fine and the problem is the monitor, if they aren't then it is the file.

    The problem with calibrating your monitor in the dark like was suggested is that when you have the light back you are going to have problems because the monitor is going to look different.

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  • 01-28-2007 2:15 PM In reply to

    Re: Calibration too pink

    Studio 25:
    Can anyone help me?  I bought the Spyder2 Express and calibrated my new monitor but it looks too pink.  What should I do to fix this?  I tried recalibrating but I get the same results.  I think it is too warm?  That seems to be the point when it changes to a pinkish tan hue.  Even my black and whites look pinkish on the monitor.  Any suggestions?

    What monitor are you using?  I have the Viewsonic P225f Professional Series 22 inch CRT and I have the exact same problem.  I gave up.  I used the Huey at first, then decided it was junk and bought the spyder.  Same results. PINK instead of GRAY.  Either my eyes are junk (My wife's too...) or there is something wrong with the monitor.  I'm going to be getting a high-end 24 inch wide screen LCD soon and hopefully it will calibrate correctly.
     

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  • 01-28-2007 4:25 PM In reply to

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    Re: Calibration too pink

    I have a DELL 17 inch LCD.
  • 01-28-2007 4:34 PM In reply to

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    Re: Calibration too pink

    How do I check the RGB values?
  • 01-28-2007 5:35 PM In reply to

    Re: Calibration too pink

    Studio 25:
    How do I check the RGB values?
    It depends on what software you are using.

    In Photoshop there is the Eye Dropper tool that will display the RGB values for the area of the image you are over. This is displayed in the Info palette. If you are in Photoshop select the EYE Dropper tool and go up to the tool options bar and set the selection from point to 5x5. This will give you a more accurate reading. There should be something similar in other programs.

    If your B&W image is still in RGB anywhere you go in the image you should have exactly even RGB values. On your color image either the background or the sweater. You do not want a specular highlight that is totally blown out to 255/255/255 you want an area with some detail. To me the background looks a tad blue and the sweater a tad warm either one should work for this.

    You can take this concept a step further and use the numbers to do your color correction, which removes all the problems with color on your monitor.

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  • 01-28-2007 8:38 PM In reply to

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    Re: Calibration too pink

    Thanks, Cort for the explanation.  My B&Ws are in RGB and they have the same numbers in RG and B.  When I clicked around the color picture on her sweater and the background, everywhere I clicked had different numbers.  I don't have any idea how to use the numbers to do the color correction...  (I do use Photoshop.)
  • 01-28-2007 9:10 PM In reply to

    Re: Calibration too pink

    Since your B&W has the same numbers any color cast you are seeing is from your monitor/eyes/brain, I say this because it is pretty easy color wise to fool your eyes and brain. That is why I like color by the numbers.

    Here is the short version, you may have to do some research in Photoshop to find the tools I am talking about. When I teach this class it is usually a six hour hands on class so it isn't really going to be possible to go fully into it here.

    1) Open your image in Photoshop and make sure the Info and Layers palettes are open.

    2) Select the Color Sampler tool, it is in with the Eye Dropper. Set the sample size to 5x5.

    3) Select a highlight area with detail and click on it to place a sample point, repeat with a shadow area with detail and any other area that should be neutral so that you have three points. You can move these points later if you need to. Make sure that your highlight and shadow areas have detail and are not at 255/255/255 and 0/0/0.

    4) Create a Curves Adjustment Layer in the Layers palette.

    5) Go into the individual RGB curves and adjust each to get even RGB values for the points that you have selected in the image, you will be able to see the values in the Info palette as you adjust the curves.

    That is it in a nutshell, I find that trying to set my highlights and shadows to the same vales each time give me consistency from one print to the next. The most critical part is selecting the points in the image to use so don't be afraid to move them if necessary, after you do this for awhile you will get a feel for where they need to go. You may not be able to always do three points depending on the image, in that case set what you can. You can also check skin tones by looking at the ratios on CMYK.

    This should give you a start and something to try.

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