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External Storage
Last post 01-31-2007 2:19 PM by Rionoir. 18 replies.
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01-28-2007 10:02 PM
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Marjie


- Joined on 06-21-2005
- South Arkansas
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My hubby got me one for Christmas and here it sits on my desk waiting to be used. I even got the neat carring case from Western Digital for it. Hopfully soon I'll start putting my pictures on it and get them off my laptop. Marjie
Marjie
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julieinkc


- Joined on 09-19-2006
- St. Louis metro
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I just got the same one at Costco for $229 (premium edition) and that was a great deal compared to Best Buy (at the time), so that is a really great buy. I think the price can depend on the connection (premium vs. standard?).
julie
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FirstLight


- Joined on 07-25-2005
- Mississippi
- Posts 1,265
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Here is a 500GB Western Digital 7200RPM SATA/300 hard drive for 144.99, and you get a free drive case. I ordered this tonight - Only a couple days left on the sale. Dawn
http://www.geeks.com/pix/2007/freeCASE17Jan07.html?cpc=HPM
Have a Beautiful Day! Dawn In the right light, at the right time, everything is extraordinary. ~Aaron Rose

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TxMensan


- Joined on 11-18-2006
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FirstLight:
OOOH! I like this deal... thanks for the heads up. I really am building up a stockpile of drives though... How many of you keep multiple copies of archived files? For example, DVD and hard-drive.
Check out our most recent endeavor...GownStop.com. It's still a bit of a work in progress, but you get the idea. :o)
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Rionoir


- Joined on 05-24-2005
- Bangkok, Thailand
- Posts 8,991
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I have read messages from people that say you must have a fan for an external drive, and I've seen messages even from people in the industry that say they put fans on certain units only to keep from loosing customers. A good external harddrive like My Book has a well built case, which includes a heat dissipating enclosure... I can tell that mine has been on all day now and it is cool to the touch all around, and the air passing through the vents isn't even warm, it is cool. The external drive only works when it is being accessed, so there doesn't seem to be much benefit to turning it on and off. I worry a lot more about the harddrives in my laptop, even though there are about 5 fans in that thing, because it gets so hot (desktop replacement)... but seriously, I check my My Book all the time just out of curiosity and it is never even warm much less hot... so I'm not too concerned. Plus, they are so easy to use, you can easily link up multiples books together, they look great, and if you are really concerned you can be backing up to DVD or another drive as well (which we should be doing anyway).
My Thailand Blog!CLICK HERE FOR THE CHATROOM Ryan Johnson, Owner/Photographer, Rion Photography, Wedding Photography in Thailand (Bangkok, Koh Samui, Phuket)
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Rionoir


- Joined on 05-24-2005
- Bangkok, Thailand
- Posts 8,991
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FirstLight: Here is a 500GB Western Digital 7200RPM SATA/300 hard drive for 144.99, and you get a free drive case. I ordered this tonight - Only a couple days left on the sale. Dawn
Now this is one I would worry about with a cheap case like that... spend the extra 50 bucks and get a 500 Gb My Book that will protect your data a lot better! That is a huge harddrive (lots of pictures!) to be putting in a cheap case like that.
My Thailand Blog!CLICK HERE FOR THE CHATROOM Ryan Johnson, Owner/Photographer, Rion Photography, Wedding Photography in Thailand (Bangkok, Koh Samui, Phuket)
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RVsForFun


- Joined on 01-05-2007
- Colorado
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I've owned a MyBook and returned it when I saw the close enclosure. The reason it doesn't feel hot is that the case is plastic. No air movement means poor cooling. And the disk spins even when you don't access it unless the controller in the case puts the disk to sleep. I have a half-dozen external drives, all get hot when they're on, all will have heat problems if left on for a long time. Rionoir:I have read messages from people that say you must have a fan for an external drive, and I've seen messages even from people in the industry that say they put fans on certain units only to keep from loosing customers. A good external harddrive like My Book has a well built case, which includes a heat dissipating enclosure... I can tell that mine has been on all day now and it is cool to the touch all around, and the air passing through the vents isn't even warm, it is cool. The external drive only works when it is being accessed, so there doesn't seem to be much benefit to turning it on and off. I worry a lot more about the harddrives in my laptop, even though there are about 5 fans in that thing, because it gets so hot (desktop replacement)... but seriously, I check my My Book all the time just out of curiosity and it is never even warm much less hot... so I'm not too concerned. Plus, they are so easy to use, you can easily link up multiples books together, they look great, and if you are really concerned you can be backing up to DVD or another drive as well (which we should be doing anyway).
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Rionoir


- Joined on 05-24-2005
- Bangkok, Thailand
- Posts 8,991
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Are you saying you'd rather the outer shell of the drive was metal??? The very external shell of the book is plastic, yes, it is decorative. Also, plastic conducts heat... if there was hot air beneath the plastic you'd feel it... that doesn't make sense? There is clearly something beneath the plastic, look at how big the entire case is vs the size of a harddrive... what's beneath is a heat dissipating shield, and that's why you don't feel hot air. And I can hear when my disk starts spinning or not, and it only spins when it is accessed... and it goes to sleep when the computer does. I've had my current drive for over a year and have never manually turned it off and it works beautifully. Heat dissipation isn't just a city in China... LoL Sorry couldn't resist... =P
My Thailand Blog!CLICK HERE FOR THE CHATROOM Ryan Johnson, Owner/Photographer, Rion Photography, Wedding Photography in Thailand (Bangkok, Koh Samui, Phuket)
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FirstLight


- Joined on 07-25-2005
- Mississippi
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For my purposes, this is a great deal. 145 dollars for 500GB of storage? I have a 300GB Seagate external drive connected through Firewire, and it is filling up so it is slowing down. I need this extra storage to be able to put some things "on the shelf" so to speak. I love my Seagate drive, and yes it is fan cooled, and it also "sleeps" if not accessed for a certain amount of time. I have this 4-year-old system running pretty smoothly, and use the 300GB drive as scratch for PS even ( I know everyone says you can't do this and that it is stupid slow, but I have it working very well). You'd never know I only have 512 ram, and an older processor. Still, my baby - my computer - has seen better days lately. My brother is coming this weekend (finally) to help me order part so we can build a new one. SOOO excited!! Ok, TMI - lol - but I was just saying that this is a great deal for something to use as pure storage, especially if you are a Megabyte PackRat - like me. lol
Have a Beautiful Day! Dawn In the right light, at the right time, everything is extraordinary. ~Aaron Rose

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SLEE


- Joined on 05-11-2005
- Posts 1,210
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Standard operating temp for a hard drive can range from 5-65 celcius,
different drives will have different ranges. Heat may be a
contributing factor for failure eventually, but unless you're taking the drive into
areas beyond it's operating temperature, the drive is made and stress
tested to take fairly high heat. I'd be more worried about failure from
long term use, head failure, misaligned platters, high humidity, high
static discharges, electromagnetic fields such as from an overhead lamp
or fan, etc, then heat. If you're still not sure, there are 5 externals
I have at work, they all have been on for roughly about 2 years
straight. None of them have failed, and yes they get pretty hot, enough
so that I wouldn't want to hold it long. Every external enclosure has a metal interior to hold the hard drive, then an external shell of either plastic or another type of alloy. I've never seen nor I'm sure will I ever see an external enclosure that's 100 percent plastic anytime soon. (well okay...other then my friend's system who has his hard drive placed inside a bread box, but it's on metal "stilts" so I still count that as metal)
Sam
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RVsForFun


- Joined on 01-05-2007
- Colorado
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All of my external drives are aluminum encased and the aluminum case gets hot when the drives are on. Plastic does not conduct heat well, it's an insulator. Some heat is still generated in a drive that's asleep, and your controllers must be designed to put the disk to sleep. Before I'd say your drives are cool, I'd want to feel the actual cooling device (i.e., the metal casing) before I declare them vented properly. The one thing that does cool a drive is moving air. What I'm recommending is a forced-air case such as the Ultra. What I can tell you is that I've never had an internal drive fail due to heat. I've had numerous external, non-vented drives fail fairly quickly and all their cases were hot. When I have computers built, I have a fan blow over the disk drives. Rionoir:Are you saying you'd rather the outer shell of the drive was metal??? The very external shell of the book is plastic, yes, it is decorative. Also, plastic conducts heat... if there was hot air beneath the plastic you'd feel it... that doesn't make sense? There is clearly something beneath the plastic, look at how big the entire case is vs the size of a harddrive... what's beneath is a heat dissipating shield, and that's why you don't feel hot air. And I can hear when my disk starts spinning or not, and it only spins when it is accessed... and it goes to sleep when the computer does. I've had my current drive for over a year and have never manually turned it off and it works beautifully. Heat dissipation isn't just a city in China... LoL Sorry couldn't resist... =P
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kenw


- Joined on 10-18-2005
- Near Houston, in the Republic of Texas
- Posts 1,792
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Quite honestly (and being a Mechanical Engr with 25+ years in Computer Design and Mfg), in most cases a fan in a (single drive) external drive enclosure is so much marketing hooey. The operating temperatures (as mentioned earlier) are such that passive venting of the enclosure is usually adequate (hot air expands and rises! Real science!). If the enclosure is totally sealed, a metal case has some advantages. Poke some holes in it and the adavantages pretty much go away. Unless your ambient room temp is close to the max operating temp of the drive, forced air a waste. Altho it certainly doesn't hurt unless it sucks in dust (which is actually quite likely), it's usually a way for the case maker to add some profit. Actually I prefer the blue neon lights inside a clear enclosure, they align the incoming cosmic rays and prevent them from interfering with my titanium-shielded oxygen-free data cables.....
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Rionoir


- Joined on 05-24-2005
- Bangkok, Thailand
- Posts 8,991
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kenw:Actually I prefer the blue neon lights inside a clear enclosure, they align the incoming cosmic rays and prevent them from interfering with my titanium-shielded oxygen-free data cables.....
LoL
My Thailand Blog!CLICK HERE FOR THE CHATROOM Ryan Johnson, Owner/Photographer, Rion Photography, Wedding Photography in Thailand (Bangkok, Koh Samui, Phuket)
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