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Last post 07-28-2008 6:10 PM by Dave W. 14 replies.
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  • 07-24-2008 10:24 AM

    Summer School - class outline

    Good morning, class.

    Good morning, class. Class? Class!?

    SHUDD-UP!!!!!

     

    Thank you.

    As you know your regular teacher Sister Rosetta Stone is on a small vacation. However she does send her love, and these fingerpaintings and dust cloths she's making.

    I am your substitute teacher, Sister Mary Elephant.

    Class, attention. Attention, class! Class?

    SHUDD-UP!!!!!

    Thank you.
    Young man, now give me that knife. Thank you.
    Now class, you all know who I am, so let's find out who you are.
    Class? Class!? SHUDD-UP!!!!!
    Thank you.
     
    Extra credit goes to anyone who knows what that's from! LOL
     
    Ok guys, I figured the first thing we should do is create an outline. I want to focus mainly on the camera (and techniques), but we can cover editing too.
     
    So what topics would you like to see covered?
  • 07-24-2008 10:36 AM In reply to

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    Well, that's Cheech and Chong.

    Pamela Van Nest
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    Farm Blog: On Clinch Mountain
  • 07-24-2008 10:41 AM In reply to

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    And by the way....Dave's not here.

    Pamela Van Nest
    Website: Clinch Mountain Paso Finos
    Farm Blog: On Clinch Mountain
  • 07-24-2008 10:44 AM In reply to

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     LOL - I got the stuff, open the door!

    I loved Cheech & Chong on tape!

    Shan

  • 07-24-2008 12:44 PM In reply to

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    I have a question Shan, and this may not be the place to ask, so tell me to go elsewhere if need be.  In one of the lessons I think, perhaps somewhere else, someone said to 'make sure the camera was set at infinity'.  I realized I don't know what that means, at least I don't think I do.  I really learned about DOF in the first lesson, so what I have been doing is setting my f-stop to the highest # I could (within reason) and adjusting accordingly (SS & ISO) to get to "0" on meter.  I'm thinking I'm off base with that.  Is that worth a lesson or just a simple explanation?

    Thanks,
    Mary
    Mary
  • 07-24-2008 1:15 PM In reply to

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     Hey Shan, here is a list that was posted previously. Some of these have already been covered.  

    As part of the composition portion I'd like to see how to properly use angles for dramatic effect.

    TheGirlNextDoor:

    Compiled List of Request Tutorials and Lessons:

    Learn AV (doing now), TV and Full Manual

          Composition (shooting up a nose from below isn’t always flattering)

    White Balance and Custom White Balance

    RAW versus JPEG

    Different lenses for different situations (wide versus zoom)

    Posing (how to make that double chin look like one)

    Rule of Thirds (centering isn’t always good)

    Cropping without hacking (applies to rules of third and aspect ratio)

    Studio Lighting 101

    Difficult lighting situations and how to handle them (backlighting, full sun, etc.)

    Using Natural Light for Portraits (use what god gave us)

    Photo Editing and Software Options (how’d you do that?)

          Aspect Ratio (why you can’t get an 8x10 out of a 8x12 w/out losing body parts)

     

     

    I see a couple missing that are frequent queries on the other sections of this forum:

     

    Getting the exposure "right"...regardless of mode the shot is in, the camera (and sometimes the photographer are not foolproof).  In some conditions, any exposure "choice" results in sacrificing detail in some portion of the tone of the image...how to make the right call (dynamic range in the real world vs. what the camera can capture).

     

    What is that hitogram thingy and how do I read it to know my next exposure will be dead on?  Is clipping highlight or shadow ever okay?

     

    Ken, I would be happy to help on some of the above topics.  I would be useless at any discussions of portraiture, but the two above as well as several of the others would be fine.  Send me an e-mail if you would like a hand.

    Great job on lesson 1!!!

    Jim

     

    Thanks,
    Leigh
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  • 07-24-2008 1:30 PM In reply to

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    Mary,

    Quick Answer: Setting the [focus] on infinity means turning off auto focus and setting it for the farthest focal distance it has. Most lenses (SLRs, anyway) have markings that show how far away the subject is. At some point it will have an infinity symbol.

     I don't know if it is enough to do a tutorial on, what do you think?

    Leigh -

    Thanks for the list - I thought I had seen one!

    I have a meeting in about 1/2 an hour, so I can't post the next one yet, but I will today!

    Shan

  • 07-24-2008 1:40 PM In reply to

    • neophyte
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    Re: Summer School - class outline

    I would like to have some more tricks up my sleeve for posing (like Becker's head shot stuff)...

     also I have a lot of trouble with color.  Everytime I post something on the critique page I am told that I need to do levels to adjust the color.  I do levels correction and I don't think it looks any better. 

    I would eventually like a lesson on "So you've taken the picture...now what"  a step by step guideline on post processing. 

    Oh something about white balance because that has been a problem with my pictures.  Really I just like having an assignment to shoot...without an assigment I always resort to shooting my pets and kids.

    ~neo

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  • 07-24-2008 2:31 PM In reply to

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    Well there are so many things that I want to learn more about.....I will just go with whatever you wanna teach me :-)

    That said..... I need more pointers as to where to begin with the camera settings.... like what is the starting point for what kind of shots...and how to change those settings to get what result...kwim?

    And post processing....wellllllllll................ since I don't have photoshop yet, most of the help is confusing me more....so I am open to all that as well.  Photoshop coming soon....maybe ..........   hehehehe

    So, bring it on !!

    and I am with neo........give me an assignment , that keeps me on task :-)

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  • 07-24-2008 3:07 PM In reply to

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    Looking foward to class!   Also, thank you very much for the link for the WB lens cap.  Toni

    Toni
  • 07-27-2008 11:33 PM In reply to

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    The Nerd Husband:

    Quick Answer: Setting the [focus] on infinity means turning off auto focus and setting it for the farthest focal distance it has. Most lenses (SLRs, anyway) have markings that show how far away the subject is. At some point it will have an infinity symbol.

     I don't know if it is enough to do a tutorial on, what do you think?



    Shan, I think you are right on  that (not lesson worthy of size), but i   do have a few questions I would like someone to help me understand about it, would it be too much of an imposition to PM you my questions  when they come up on this.  I feel so stupid about it.  Thanks for your time.

    Mary
    Mary
  • 07-27-2008 11:40 PM In reply to

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    Shan, I'll be doing as much of the lessons as possible.  I'll probably be mia on portaiture stuff, but other than that...  Just wanted to say thanks for stepping up!

  • 07-27-2008 11:43 PM In reply to

    • Dave W
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     Better watch out for officer Stedanko!

     Dave is back!

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  • 07-28-2008 11:45 AM In reply to

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    <lots of talking>

     Mr Stedenko is a narcotics officer.

    <dead silence>

    Very good class!

    LOL

    Officer Stedenko, you have a PM!

  • 07-28-2008 6:10 PM In reply to

    • Dave W
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     My son has a CD with a rendition of the song from "Earache my eye". I laughed my butt off!

    dah! dah! dah!,

    dah! dah! dah!,

    dah! dah!

    Dave

     

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